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I remember very vividly the Cooper & Cary podcast episode on this subject last year, where I was and what I was doing while listening to. Unsure as to whether I read the original ST George’s Day article you wrote in the past but it’s very refreshing reading this one, on what feels like the one year anniversary of the aforementioned C&C podcast. episode.

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Hi James G (wink!wink :.) - dont have emoticons on my system!)

Thought provoking, whimsical and you raise some interesting issues.

Like why do we need a patron saint when we are largely a secular society? And why have a national day to celebrate our less than glorious past which was mostly about plundering other countries of their riches - perhaps nationalism has had it's day eg National Socialism and St George's flag seems to have been taken over by other groups.

And the ,presumably, myth about St George being a roman tribune who is supposed to have thrown away his life because he couldn't bring himself to satisfy his bosses over a minor issue. How daft is that and what about his family, or did they have to obey him as master of the house?! A bit like someone supposedly called Jesus who also is supposed to have thrown away his life because he thought he knew better than the PTB. I think the last thing we need now with all the current racial and religious tension is some Christian symbol to represent us surely?

And on Haidt - do you really think the Right have the ownership of "the realm of the sacred" and the "good of the community" and "the broader picture"as opposed to "some speculative utopia". Come on James , you sound really right wing now and with a rather jaundiced view of socialism (i'm not socialist myself).

Then you say " I confess I skimmed most of the material on the role of evolutionary biology because I’ve never found that stuff very compelling, but that just proves that Haidt is right". Not sure what you mean by "that just proves that Haidt is right" but perhaps I will have to try to get the book out of the library.

But are you really serious about evolutionary biology? (I DONT BELIEVE IT !!) with all the fossil record or is it just that you are a creationist as one of your previous posts suggested to me?

And then on to the Kicker - perhaps we need less of party politics but more of working together as my son, who is in local politics, has found sorely lacking.

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